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    Doesn't a flood of new backlinks hurt your SEO?


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    #1 mojo1017

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    Posted 27 September 2010 - 10:28 PM

    When you start a new web domain, doesn't it hurt your SEO to see a flood of backlinks appear in a short time? In just looking at the backlinking tools and classified ads on this website, it appears that most people on this website are posting tens to hundreds of blog links, bookmarks, articles, etc. per month.
    Thanks.

    #2 jxuereb

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    Posted 28 September 2010 - 06:48 AM

    Just a quick comment theres a different between creating back links and Google finding them at the same rate. Just because you create x amount of back links doesn't mean Google or the search engines are going to instantly recognize all those links at once. There are also theories on link velocity also.

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    Posted 28 September 2010 - 09:20 AM

    No it doesnt.

    My customer come to me brand new site 1000 quality profile links 3 anchors each according to yahoo there is no backlinks indexed which shows its not a medium to base your seo sucess on, not sure about google havent checked but thats the main point them 1000 links wont instantly get found out.

    I have bin tracking the site constantly for the last week it has seen a movement on average of 5-10 positions a day for the 3 keywords which are competitive they are in the gaming market.

    Its now 50th, 31st and 22nd for its respective terms. In 5 days since the links were built and 8 days since the site was built. I am not worrying about indexing at the moment when the rankings stop moving up then I will.
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    Posted 28 September 2010 - 08:09 PM

    Here is a scenario:

    1. You blast 10K links to your site the 1st day.
    2. Then you blast another 10K links the 2nd day.

    and you continue to do this for 5 days.

    but from 1st day, 50% of your links is gone, so is second day and the rest of the day.... in 3rd day, you already lost 15K sites, but your daily blast is 10K... now, that will raise a red flag.

    Don't take the number too serious, just an example. When Google starts to find you losing more links than gain, especially those links from all kind of sites, from PR N/A to PR0, that's a good indication of you spamming the search engine!

    That's why some people send tons of links to a site without penalty, because they get more links and lost very little. The question is not building link too fast, but losing it too fast, a lot faster than gaining them, then your "NEW" site will be in trouble.

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    Posted 29 September 2010 - 03:04 AM

    Thanks - 100% logical - One of the best posts I have ever read.

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    Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:59 PM

    Kok Choon that was a very good answer and something that I have not thought about.

    #7 mojo1017

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    Posted 30 September 2010 - 02:43 PM

    Thanks, KC. That totally makes sense. I now see the importance in obtaining high quality backlinks that stick and not worrying so much about the magnitude.

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    Posted 03 October 2010 - 09:52 AM

    Here is a scenario:

    1. You blast 10K links to your site the 1st day.
    2. Then you blast another 10K links the 2nd day.

    and you continue to do this for 5 days.

    but from 1st day, 50% of your links is gone, so is second day and the rest of the day.... in 3rd day, you already lost 15K sites, but your daily blast is 10K... now, that will raise a red flag.

    Don't take the number too serious, just an example. When Google starts to find you losing more links than gain, especially those links from all kind of sites, from PR N/A to PR0, that's a good indication of you spamming the search engine!

    That's why some people send tons of links to a site without penalty, because they get more links and lost very little. The question is not building link too fast, but losing it too fast, a lot faster than gaining them, then your "NEW" site will be in trouble.

    Kok Choon


    You are totally right.

    #9 Charybdis

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    Posted 03 October 2010 - 10:36 AM

    So for brand new websites, is it a good idea to get started only with 1 blog network? Because when using a blog network, nearly 100% of the backlinks stink. And after a few weeks I can add profile backlinks, too, because the attrition rate of profile backlinks is much higher. But it is not a problem, because I already have some backlinks.

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    Posted 12 October 2010 - 09:18 PM

    Thank KC. This has just answered some important questions I had. it makes perfect sense. Thanks again KC.

    #11 Hammie

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    Posted 13 October 2010 - 06:13 PM

    So for brand new websites, is it a good idea to get started only with 1 blog network? Because when using a blog network, nearly 100% of the backlinks stink. And after a few weeks I can add profile backlinks, too, because the attrition rate of profile backlinks is much higher. But it is not a problem, because I already have some backlinks.


    I'd love to know if someone could answer/back this up??

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    Posted 08 November 2010 - 03:00 AM

    I have been sandboxed blasting links too aggressively.

    The key is link velocity. If you blast like thousands of links, make sure you keep it up. Don't drop it off.

    At the start of my IM career I submitted around 30 UAW articles at 50 a day using UAW.

    As you can imagine I got a shit load of links real quick, but then I stopped. Then my SERPs nose dived.

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    Posted 15 November 2010 - 01:41 PM

    Here is a scenario:

    1. You blast 10K links to your site the 1st day.
    2. Then you blast another 10K links the 2nd day.

    and you continue to do this for 5 days.

    but from 1st day, 50% of your links is gone, so is second day and the rest of the day.... in 3rd day, you already lost 15K sites, but your daily blast is 10K... now, that will raise a red flag.
    Kok Choon


    How can off-site SEO raise any ref flags ?

    I can never understand this theory nor can I understand why so many people still maintain it's true.

    If it was possible to upset the Google Gods by having too many spammy links then wouldn't there be a spam war where competitors try to knock each other's SERPS by waging malicious spam link campaigns against each other ?

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    Posted 20 November 2010 - 06:09 AM

    How can off-site SEO raise any ref flags ?

    I can never understand this theory nor can I understand why so many people still maintain it's true.

    If it was possible to upset the Google Gods by having too many spammy links then wouldn't there be a spam war where competitors try to knock each other's SERPS by waging malicious spam link campaigns against each other ?


    Just because it doesn't make sense doesn't mean it isn't true. Plenty of things in this world don't make sense, but are nonetheless true.

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    Posted 24 November 2010 - 03:50 AM

    I still don't understand much of any of this, but thank you Kok what you posted makes a lot of sense.

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    Posted 02 December 2010 - 07:45 PM

    I usually do it as much as I can because like someone said here, Google doesn't find them all at once, some will be found in couple of days, some will be found in couple of weeks, and some will be found in couple of months so I think it's better to do as much as you can so that way you see the result faster with Google finding your new backlinks day by day

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    Posted 03 December 2010 - 05:56 AM

    Excellent answer KC - very simple to understand for the novice's ;)

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    Posted 10 December 2010 - 09:56 AM

    When you start a new web domain, doesn't it hurt your SEO to see a flood of backlinks appear in a short time? In just looking at the backlinking tools and classified ads on this website, it appears that most people on this website are posting tens to hundreds of blog links, bookmarks, articles, etc. per month.
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    Posted 31 December 2010 - 05:59 AM

    Do as much links as you want but don't ping them at once. Google doesn't find them all on the same day anyways.

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    Posted 04 January 2011 - 11:24 AM

    ya if you make too many links in a single day then it will hurt your site as google will think you are spamming..it might ban your site..




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